NWR: Your feelings on smoking

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MrsMcCain Posts : 580 Registered: 10/24/07
NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 1:21 PM

Hey gals-

This is something that I have been thinking about over my lunch break. The legistlature (in my area) has recently been trying to pass a bill that would ban smoking in all public places, including bars and casinos, or possibly having a bill where the local governments get to choose whether or not they will ban smoking. I have been reading articles and was really surprised at peoples comments (the smokers) about how they feel "the government is taking away their rights" etc... and it has just been a big controversy. I was wondering what people from other states thought about this issue. If you live in an area where everything is smoke free I would like to hear about that.

 I support the ban. I am not a smoker and whenever I am around a lot of smoke I develop a cough/sore throat and sometimes a runny nose, it is hard to breath and I feel like my lungs are going to collapse. I think it would be great to be able to go out and enjoy places without having to worry about being near smoke.

There was even people arguing that they do not believe that second-hand smoke is harmful and doesn't cause cancer... that is not true!

I can't wait to read everyone else's opinions.

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CaribbeanBride08 Posts : 1,474 Registered: 6/13/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 1:54 PM Go to message in response to: MrsMcCain

I live in California, which is a smoke free state.  I'm a smoker yet I still support the ban.  Granted, it was hard to get used to when they first passed the law about 10+ years ago but it's no big deal now.  When I go back to TX to visit my family, I find it really disgusting to go to a smoke filled restaurant.

My fiance and I have decided to quit once we get back from our honeymoon.  Our official "quit date" is April 28th.  Wish us luck!! :)


 

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MsDenuninani Posts : 3,962 Registered: 3/16/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 2:07 PM Go to message in response to: MrsMcCain

I was against the ban in my area initially (and I'm not a smoker.  In fact, being in a smoke-filled room often triggers my allergies) becaue I believed that you should let businesses run the way they want to run to attract the customer they want to attract.

I still kinda feel that way.  There's something about going to a smoky bar or a smoky jazz club that just feels unique, and I'm nostalgic for the feeling of being able to go to places as an adult and do "adult" things like smoking.

But I've really gotten used to it now.  It's so nice to go out and not have smokey clothes at the end of the evening. Also, I live outside of DC, and DC and MD areas are smoke-free, while Virginia isn't.  I've got to say, there's a Virginia bar/movie theater that I love, but I seldom go there anymore because I've gotten so used to not dealing with cigarette smoke, and I don't want to have to deal with it again.

And when my friends visit, they LOVE that it's not smokey anywhere. 

The people I think that most benefit from the ban, though, are the workers.  Smoke-free is better for them overall, and I bet they like the ban.


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MrsWilliams2008 Posts : 1,431 Registered: 7/19/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 2:08 PM Go to message in response to: CaribbeanBride08

I support the ban 110%. My father's brother is the only one in my family that smokes. I don't smoke (never even tried it) and FH is not a smoker, thank God. I think that is a horrible habit to have. And the dangers of first hand/second hand smoke faaaaar outweigh the benefits 

I do truly understand that some smokers cannot just quit, it takes time and real will. I just feel sorry for my coworkers who can't go an hour without smoking and have NO wish to quit smoking. We work for the state and they are trying to make us smoke free too.

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CaribbeanBride08 Posts : 1,474 Registered: 6/13/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 2:18 PM Go to message in response to: MrsWilliams2008

Thanks RyAnne.  It is definitely a nasty, nasty habit that I wish like hell I would've never tried.  There's not a single person in my family that "doesn't" smoke and I have 4 siblings.  It's pathetic really.  I grew up around it and unfortunately, I started smoking at age 14 <hangs head in shame>.  What's even more sickening is that we lost our mother to lung cancer in 2005 yet none of us have quit smoking <hangs head in shame again>  It's really, really tough but I know for sure that I really, really want to quit so thanks again for your encouraging words!

 

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Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 2:29 PM Go to message in response to: MrsMcCain

I am all for the ban.  There are some bars that handle the smoke really well, with great ventilation systems and it doesn't disturb the patrons at all (I'm pretty sensitive to smoke).  But it's the bars where you walk in and it's this mist that is automatically stuck to your clothes, your hair, and you just can't enjoy the night the way you want to.

On the other hand, I have heard people who work at these businesses who aren't too thrilled.  One of my favorite restaurants is about to switch to non-smoking, and the bartender mentioned that he loved his area of this restaurant because it was always adults only because of the smoke, and so he got great business and great tips.  Now that area of the restaurant is where parents bring their little kids, and he has no more bar business, the smokers moved elsewhere.  So I can see both sides.

Hopefully it doesn't affect the business aspect too much, but I am all for the ban.  And good luck to the quitting smoking!  I have a sister who just went through it, come here for support, I'm sure it will go great! 

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marty08 Posts : 1,110 Registered: 7/1/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 2:39 PM Go to message in response to: MrsMcCain

I am a smoker and am totally in favor of the ban...except in airports...sorry...I'm a mess when I fly!!

We live in a totally smoke free area..it was hard at first to go out and have a drink and not be able to smoke..they kinda go together!!...but we just quit going to happy hour at the bar and went to someone's house!!

I really do enjoy going into smoke-free places now...

Good luck to you CaribbeanBride!!..fh and I were going to quit before the wedding...never happened and honestly, with all the stress....not planning on it until afterwards!!


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MrsJunebug Posts : 333 Registered: 1/11/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 4:06 PM Go to message in response to: MrsMcCain

I am a smoker. <Hangs head in shame with CaribbeanBride>  We live in a strange town that is split in half by a river.  One half is smoke-free, the other is considering it.

I personally do not mind smoke-free environments.  It sounds weird, me being a smoker, but I loathe second hand smoke.  It drives me nuts.  So I completely understand that non-smokers don't want to be around it.  In my few attempts to quit, I remember thinking, 'I wish I could go out with my friends and not be surrounded by temptation.'

On the other hand, I am strongly against the government getting over involved in our personal matters.  If a place of business wants to be smoke-free, by all means post a sign and remove the ashtrays.  I feel that putting a government issued ban on people's personal preferences is a bit much. 

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NJ4Life Posts : 3,358 Registered: 8/10/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 4:30 PM Go to message in response to: MrsJunebug

I am a smoker when I go out (i know, poser-ish but I used to be full blown) and I really dont support the ban.  NJ is mostly non-smoking and i know NYC is and I believe most of Philly now is.

 For me it's about the rights of the people. Ok smoking is bad but it's my right to smoke and your right to not smoke. non smoking people have been going to smokey bars forever. Bars are filled with smoke as are casinos. This is something you know when you go. If they wanted to create SOME non smoking bars and some smoking bars fine, but to ban it everywhere is silly. But this would give everyone the right to choose where they go.

I know they built a new sports bar in my area that has a heated outdoor portion that you can smoke in which is cool.

Also its about the rights of the business owners. Some might lose business and I think its ridiculous for the government to step it.  I also dont agree with the trans-fats ban in NYC and I'm sure other areas.  People need to stop blaming everyone else for their problems and the government should stop trying to "fix" everything.


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NewMrsSass Posts : 722 Registered: 12/31/06
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 4:33 PM Go to message in response to: MrsMcCain

If the tobacco companies didn't have so much damn control over the country's economy and government (they OWN EVERYTHING, not just the tobacco market), cigarettes would be illegal just like marijuana, cocaine, heroin, etc.  SMOKING KILLS.  It KILLS people.  It kills people who smoke, and it kills people who don't smoke.  No one has a right to smoke, because no one has a right to kill somebody.  That "it's my right to smoke" is the biggest load of bullcrap I have ever heard.  I can't believe people who say it can actually take themselves seriously.  I mean, if they have a right to smoke, then everyone should have a right to pee on the sidewalk.  Or walk around naked in public.  Or stagger around town drunk screaming curse words.  Or spit on people.  Or run red lights.  Or make crystal meth. Or carry a semi-automatic weapon and shoot anyone who looks at him/her the wrong way.  I can't believe people are actually big enough morons to use the word "right" to justify their smoking habit...it really makes me lose faith in the brain capacity of human beings.

I know how hard it is to quit and how addictive nicotine is.  But I just can't understand how something that costs you over $1500 dollars a year and that KILLS YOU and the people you love cannot be enough motivation to quit.  I watched my grandfather die of lung cancer at 59 from smoking.  I watched my grandmother go through radiation for throat cancer from his smoking.  I watched my dad continue to smoke for years after this (until he got so sick of my sister breaking all the cigarettes in his packs at the filter, and the rest of his family ride his ass so much he quit).  It makes me sick that something so deadly could still be legal...all because of money. 


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CaribbeanBride08 Posts : 1,474 Registered: 6/13/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 4:52 PM Go to message in response to: NewMrsSass

I wish it were illegal, then it would be a lot easier for all of us to quit! 

 

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B2B999 Posts : 700 Registered: 12/7/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 5:05 PM Go to message in response to: CaribbeanBride08

I definitely support the smoking ban. I am a non-smoker and I love being able to go out and not end up smelling like an ashtray. I have asthma and there is nothing worse then not being able to go out to bars because too much smoke could bring on a severe attack.

However I am completely opposed to any attempt to make cigerettes illegal - regulate & tax rather then pay insane sums of money trying to enforce an unenforceable law. Have we learned nothing from the "war on drugs"


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CaribbeanBride08 Posts : 1,474 Registered: 6/13/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 5:36 PM Go to message in response to: B2B999

However I am completely opposed to any attempt to make cigerettes illegal - regulate & tax rather then pay insane sums of money trying to enforce an unenforceable law. Have we learned nothing from the "war on drugs"

Dammit, you're right!  I was really just being selfish because it's so freakin hard to quit!


 

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Retired Posts : 808 Registered: 4/17/06
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 5:49 PM Go to message in response to: MrsMcCain

I can't stand smoking. I don't go over to a friend's house because her parents both smoke and it makes me sicker than a dog.

I'm all for banning smoking in places such as restaurants, public parks, grocery stores, hospitals, airports, etc. I am NOT for banning them in bars, because to me, these are places that it is just part of the environment. I don't like smoke, so I don't go to bars because I know it'll be there. To me, banning smoking in bars is like banning alcohol in bars... kind of pointless.

The only casinos around here are boats, which you're already not permitted to smoke on anyway, so I don't really have an opinion on the casino front.

Yes, it is your right to smoke, but it is also the right of everyone else to live in a healthy environment. When one smoker is in a hospital waiting room and no one else in there smokes... majority rules. Sorry. Go outside.

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coastiebride Posts : 1,365 Registered: 3/26/07
Re: NWR: Your feelings on smoking
Posted: Feb 27, 2008 6:08 PM Go to message in response to: Retired

I am a smoker and i do support the ban. But in some places where i live they are trying to ban it from outside public places, which is going to far from me. but i think a family should be able to bring especialy young children to their favorite resturant without exposing their children to this nasty product! But i do belive that an adult only bar that the bar owner should be able to decided if they want to have a smoker's or smoke free bar. or to have a patio outside that will allow people to smoke without having to leave the bar and their drink unwatched

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