Sex Questions (sorry, don't know where to put this)

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Re: Sex Questions (sorry, don't know where to put this)
Posted: Apr 1, 2006 12:21 AM Go to message in response to: Guest

I think the point of abstaining from sexual relations has to do wit regarding it as a holy and sacred thing between a wife and her husband - does that make me not want to? - oh heck no! but, FH IS pretty cute...LOL

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Posted: Apr 1, 2006 3:05 AM Go to message in response to: Guest

Colossians 3:4-6 - "When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming."

The phrase "sexual immorality" includes premarital sex, adultery, homosexuality, pornography, prostitution, etc.

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BirdLover Posts : 2,834 Registered: 3/30/06
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Posted: Apr 1, 2006 11:46 AM Go to message in response to: Guest

I also mean no disrespect, but as a Christian myself, I do not understand how "sexual Immorality" automatically includes homozexuals and people who love each other having sex. Adultery, of course! Bigamy, yes, but...I don't know . Sticky subject I guess!

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Posted: Apr 1, 2006 2:41 PM Go to message in response to: BirdLover

Because the Lord made sex to be between a married man and woman. I don't have my bible with me right now so I can't look up the verse, I will try to post it later, but this was the exact reason that God destroyed Sodom and Gamora with brimestone and fire. There was every kind of sexual immorality going on including homosexuality, adultery, orgys, premarital sex, and list goes on. Please everyone know that I am not trying to force my views on you and don't assume anything about what I believe. I don't want to turn this into a debate, I'm just answering others questions.

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Posted: Apr 1, 2006 8:32 PM Go to message in response to: Guest

I wasn't going to post on this however "I am woman!" so I can't hold it in long, sorry. No sin is greater then the other, excluding suicide due the inability to repent. If you sin, in anything in life and ask for forgiveness whole-heartedly, the Lord is merciful and forgives and forgets. However, since all sins are equal if you don't get a chance to repent, there is eternal loss. You can spiritually become a virgin. Imagine how great your wedding night could be if you stopped and didn't have sex as frequently as you have it now (whether its every day, week. month, whatever). You get to build up this tension and excitement.

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AlohaAroha Posts : 686 Registered: 3/30/06
Re: Sex Questions (sorry, don't know where to put this)
Posted: Apr 1, 2006 11:57 PM Go to message in response to: Guest

Going back to the original question, my darling and I waited until the wedding, and not only did we wait, we were chaste, which involves a bit more than virginity. I'm a Baha'i. I think it is probably easier to never have sex than to have it and then stop.

I absolutely honour and respect anyone who is waiting, but if you aren't it is your choice. As long as you are OK with it I don't have any problems.

Personally, I don't know about the black and white lines of sins. Maybe hell is something you make for yourself, so if you think that murder is a worse sin than fooling around with your fiance, than you will feel so much worse if you do the former that you will be in your own hell. I feel so bad when I do something less than noble that it is really good incentive not to do it again.

I sometimes think that the most awful punishment that could happen to those who do bad things (really bad things) would be for them to develop a conscience (sp?).

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Re: Sex Questions (sorry, don't know where to put this)
Posted: Apr 2, 2006 1:33 PM Go to message in response to: AlohaAroha

One of the problems of debating religion is that there are so many interpretations of the "truth", and, since none of us is God, who alone knows what the truth is, really all that we do is interpret. I'm not suggesting that I am right and everyone else is wrong, so please, no one take offense at this.

First off, I do believe that some sins are MUCH worse than others. How can one put a sin such as uttering a cuss word on the same level as a sin like committing murder? Also, if you want to discuss sexual sins, how can you say that having sex with a prostitute is on the same level as having sex with your fiance/ee?

Second, it's really hard to say what is a sin, isn't it? For example, if you're going to say that swearing is a sin, aren't you extrapolating the meaning of "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain"? And, if you want to look at “Thou shalt not commit adultery”, can’t you suggest that it’s OK to have sex with anyone, as long as neither you nor that other person is married to someone else?

So, these take me to another point, Sodom and Gomorrah. Even the various translations of the Bible have to deal with how to interpret the meanings of the words originally written in ancient languages. I looked it up, and my translation (the one accepted by my church) simply says that the cities’ sin was homosexuality; in fact, in order to keep the evil men from commiting such a horrible sin, Lot offers them his two virgin daughters instead!

Finally, people might say that I am only trying to write my sin off as minor in order to ease cognitive dissonance. As, I can honestly say that my views regarding premarital sex were exactly the same before I starting having sex with FH as they are now, I know that is not the case.

Daisypath Ticker

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littlefirefli Posts : 259 Registered: 3/30/06
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Posted: Apr 2, 2006 2:07 PM Go to message in response to: Guest

Well, I am not a religious person and nether is my fh. (You should have seen me working at a Catholic school, I was always causing trouble :P ) Anyway, the way I see it, if you already had sex with you fh then waiting for your wedding night is doing nothing but making you guys wait, period. Now if you never had sex with you fh or you are a virgin, then I could see maybe waiting (for religious beliefes).

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BirdLover Posts : 2,834 Registered: 3/30/06
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Posted: Apr 2, 2006 3:05 PM Go to message in response to: littlefirefli

I think we all agree on one thing: you should not feel bad!

Look deep inside yourself. I think God is ok with people having sex outside of marriage when they end up getting married to that person. Think about it: you're not helping spread disease, even if you got pregnant you'd be in a loving relationship..and I believe all of these things are important to God.

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Posted: Apr 3, 2006 10:11 AM Go to message in response to: Guest

September06,

While you do make a good point about interpretations, there are certain things that don't need interprtations at all, really. They're pretty straight forward. Us as humans, we don't view every sin as equal. Are you kidding?? A little white lie is nothing compared to someone committing murder or sexual assault. But the thing is that for God, sin is sin. Hands down. We're ALL sinners - no one is exempt from it, we all do it no matter how "good" we are."For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." And it's that sin that separates us from God. Whether you've committed murder sometime, or you just fib about where you went to your parents. ALL sin separates us from God, and the penalty for sin is death. "For the wages of sin is death" So basically, we're all going to hell for what we've done. But because God loves us SO much, he sent his one and only son, a man who came to earth, and became a human, and who was clean of sin, he came and paid that penalty for us. He took that punishment of death for us when he died on that cross. And all we have to do is ask forgiveness and accept his gift. It's not a long "to-do" list like a lot of people think. It's really pretty simple. Now when it comes to interpretations, I could go on and on about what I believe to be true. And I'm sure that you could easily do the same. But those are all logistics. And they're all human interpretations, so they're all flawed in some way. But the reason why there are so many different denominations of the same Church is because it's impossible for everyone to agree on the same things. There's nothing wrong with that. But it all comes down to having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ - and everything else is honestly just details. Sorry if this sounded preachy, but I felt like you kind of opened the door.

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Re: Sex Questions (sorry, don't know where to put this)
Posted: Apr 3, 2006 10:21 AM Go to message in response to: Guest

I dont want to get in a religous debate but I believe it does say in the bible that no sin is greater than another.

Mans law catagorizes these things because no you shouldnt be put in jail for life for swearing...but in God's eyes...a sin is a sin.

Anyway...If you already have premaritual sex...no point in stopping. (in my opinion)

Also the bible says that if you were married before and divorce and remarry you are committing adultry or something like that. This is my 2nd marraige but the 1st one was in a court not in a church.

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Re: Sex Questions (sorry, don't know where to put this)
Posted: Apr 3, 2006 4:03 PM Go to message in response to: Guest

Amber (militarybride) is right. A sin is a sin is a sin in God's eyes.

FH and I did not wait. He wasnt my first and I wasnt his. I regret this, but then again, I dont because it took me going through those experiences for me to become the person I am to day. The actual "act", yes I regret doing that before FH and going against my beliefs.

As far as FH is concerned, I am committed to him as if he were my husband. We have that commitment and bond already. This is it for me. I trust, love, and honor him. We already made a pledge to God that we want to be man and wife. Now we are going to have a wedding to make it official for socitey, the state, In God's house, etc. So are we having "premartial sex"...yes. However, its not just some guy, its my husband in the matter of months. By the time we get married, no one is going to care that we lived together and did it on the kitchen table before we got married. Its just not going to be an issue. It will be a sin in God's eyes, and i will ask for forgiveness when I feel I am ready to accept that this was once wrong. But I am not going to stop because someone else thinks its wrong. There are FAR worse things than this. (I am not saying any of you are preaching, etc)

My advice to the OP is follow your heart, do what's best for you and him, because what works for one person doesnt for another.

Daisypath Ticker

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Posted: Apr 3, 2006 4:30 PM Go to message in response to: Guest

remind me to bring my own tablecloth if i ever eat at your house :P

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Posted: Apr 3, 2006 4:31 PM Go to message in response to: Guest

LOL! It was an example!

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Re: Sex Questions (sorry, don't know where to put this)
Posted: Apr 3, 2006 9:09 PM Go to message in response to: Guest

Thank-you!

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