I'm glad I'm not the only vegetarian bothered by people who say,"I'm vegetarian, but I still eat chicken...and some red meat". It happens so often and it has got to be the most offensive thing. I don't think non-vegetarians mind it, but true vegetarians get really annoyed when people say stuff like that. It's like, dude, you're so not a vegetarian, stop saying that. It's not impressive, you know?
That being said, I don't eat fish, chicken, chicken stock, or gelatin, nor would I ever even taste something made of animals. It would be completely wrong for me to do so AND refer to myself as a vegetarian. The "vege" has to stand for something, people. Right?
What really cracks me up is when FH and I say "We're vegetarians" and then the response is "Well you still eat chicken and fish right?" I just don't get that. I've heard several people refer to themselves as vegetarians and then qualify the statement to say that they'll eat fish every once in a while, but chicken?? Why would someone assume that we would still eat chicken?? Funny. I just have to laugh at those people...
Originally posted by Kev'sKel: What really cracks me up is when FH and I say "We're vegetarians" and then the response is "Well you still eat chicken and fish right?" I just don't get that. I've heard several people refer to themselves as vegetarians and then qualify the statement to say that they'll eat fish every once in a while, but chicken?? Why would someone assume that we would still eat chicken?? Funny. I just have to laugh at those people...
True. A possible explanation is that in a lot of parts of the country meat = beef, specifically barbeque briscuit. A lot of people in the small town where I grew up considered it quite radical not to serve some form of beef with a meal. If they had chicken, it was served with beef, for instance. I've spent many a meal in an interrogation because I said I didn't eat meat.
*You don't eat steak? Nope. *Pork chops? No Chicken fried steak? No *Well I'll just make you some chicken? No. Thank you, but I said I don't eat meat. *You're sure you don't eat steak? Silence from the peanut gallery.
my fiance is caribbean and when his mother wanted to cook for us he told her i am a vegetarian and eat mainly pasta. so, she made us pasta with sausage and pepperoni in it. needless to say i didn't even remotely go near it. that was our first meal together. i think she might still be upset that i didnt eat her pasta. i tried to explain that i didnt eat meat but she thought that since it didnt have bones still on it, it was okay. heh
My FH is Puerto Rican, his family has NO IDEA what vegetarian means! Everything they eat contains some kind of pork or meat. They do, however, try to accommodate me. Once in a while his mom "forgets" that I'm a vegetarian. But, I have tried to introduce her to new things that are healthy for her.
Ok, I have to bring this up to Eli again, because she's the one that mentioned it. I could have done the vegetarian thing years ago since the two girls I watch and love like they are my own, they are my JBM and FG, and I lived with them for several years, have a disorder called (ok, yeah, like I'm going to spell this right now) phenalketanuiria (okay, I spelled it wrong I'm sure, Goggle search PKU) which means they can't have meat, diary, regular bread or pasta, they have to be pretty much vegan without pasta or any soy.
Eli, I'm sorry, the original point I had was I thought they were allowed to eat Jell-O but now that I think about it I don't think they are.
Regardless, they don't have the choice of whether to eat meat or not, if they do they will have brain damage! And, yes, they have over the years cheated at school or parties or when nobodys' looking, and the 12and a half year old tested at a ten year old level this past October, which I feel I could have changed if I was there. Ok, picture this, vegan since birth, your parents will make you canned carrots, and your kind of bread (Pre-packaged) into toast or pizza ( their bread with marinaria sauce) and that's pretty much it. I have a full cookbook on everthing they can have and if I didn't have that cookbook, I can work off the top of my head.
I know, I went totally off topic here, I just wanted to bring up what if it wasn't a choice?
Yeah, that would be absolutely crazy. It would be really hard especially to have a child like that if I as a parent weren't already vegan or vegetarian. It would be a very hard lifestyle to adjust to, and I think I would feel guilty a lot of the time. But, it seems they are making do just fine with the family and friends they have, right?
BJCM, the little girls are phenylketonurics. They have an intolerance of phenylalanine, which is one of the amino acids that makes up a protein molecule. They cannot consume any complete protein. It's a little harder to get by, but is by no means impossible to have a life full of delicious foods when you're a phenylketonuric. You might have noticed a little label on packages that says "Phenylketonurics: contains phenylalanine". It is mandatory for packaged food to have this label, so that makes it a little easier for people like them.
Please, please, please ask their parents to check out www.veganlunchbox.com. It's a blog run by a vegan activist mother of a 7 year old vegan boy. Everyday she fixes an amazing lunch for him and photographs it and explains it. It's a great source of ideas and inspiration for parents of vegan children.
That's very sweet of you to care so much about their dietary needs, and I hope you stay in their life and continue to inspire their parents to provide more variety and nutrition to them.
About people who misuse the word "vegetarian". Little infuriates me more. Why would you even say that? It's not like you win a prize if you're a vegetarian, or anyone likes you more, so why would you even say that?
I just chalk it up to ignorance and try my best to enlighten everyone I come across who doesn't get it.
I traveled to Mississippi in November, and I was sooooo worried about it...I was like, "What am I gonna eat? Is everyone gonna hate me? This is the Deep South, they have bacon grease in their bread, what am I gonna do?"
But much to my surprise, when I told our hostess about my vegetarian needs, she just listened intently and said, "Well okay". I was still pretty nervous about the shrimp gumbo feast they were fixing for us. Much to my delight, guess what these Southern beef addicts did for me? They went out and bought a special vegetable lasagna just for me and cooked it alone with preparing this other meal! And not only that, but they also omitted all other meat products from the side dishes, and they made a mincemeat pie for dessert as a joke!
Just goes to show that even omnivores can surprise you.
Originally posted by eli: they have bacon grease in their bread, what am I gonna do?"
lol! My mom and I joke about that too. We get stuck in places where they talk about all the meat in everything and that comes up. Then the ILs bought a bread maker and the manual that came with it actually had recipes for bread with sausage chunks in it! We thought we'd been making it up. Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes.
Thanks for recommending veganlunchbox too. I might try it for myself.
At Texas Roadhouse, there isn't ONE dish without meat in it. Their salads are already prepared with ham and turkey and their baked potatoes are ROLLED IN BACON GREASE before baking. If you ever have to there (you know, for a family outing or something), you have to call several days in advance and arrange for them to make something for you.
I went to a Vietnamese restaurant today that had to make me a special dish because everything on their buffet contained meat. Was fine with me though, because while everyone's meat dishes were lukewarm and dried out, mine was fresh and hot.
Hi Girls! Since Oct. 2004 I haven't ate red meat or chicken. I only rarely eat seafood (I have ate shrimp, crab, lobster, fish and scallops) I want very much to stop eatting seafood because I don't feel it's right. I believe eli said that What does eating the flesh of a fish any different than a cow?...she is right and that's why I have been trying hard to cut back on seafood. I guess I have tried to pretend that shirmp don't know what's happening to them..... My FH is has now also cut out all red meat and chicken so this is very good. I'm so glad he was able to cut that out of his life. He says he is much happier and healthier not eating red meat and chicken. I also try to not use things from an animal. I only use soy milk at home. I have been trying to get myself used to soy milk ice cream. Icecream is my favorite food so if anyone has tryied soy icecream that they love please let me know. Good luck to anyone trying to go veggie!
Eli, I'm sorry I forgot I had posted about the girls on something else you would respond to! I can't believe I can't remember how to spell phenylketonuria without looking at your post. I've been fully aware of what it is for ten years now. Chelsea will be 13 on March 23. I can tell their parents about the site, but my point was they don't care, ok maybe they care, but they are not at all interested in cooking for them. There are boxes of baking mixes for them in their house that expired at least three years ago. After the wedding they will be spending more time with me and then hopefully there phenylalanine levels will go down.