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MisterKelley Posts : 258 Registered: 7/11/08
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Posted: Jan 21, 2009 10:41 PM Go to message in response to: MisterKelley

So like I said, I loved the job but hated the company. I never was much of person for discipline, I understand the whole teamwork concept and I even now 20 years later, I prefer working in a team atmosphere. I'm not one for getting yelled at, it pisses me off. What I didn't like was the fact that the Air Force essentially owns you. You're not even protected under the U.S. Constitution or Bill of Rights. You are under the jurisdiction of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. If you miss an Appointment, you can be subject to non judicial punishment. Anything that happens to you off base, always comes back to you when you're on base. You're always "On Duty" even when you're off base. Something that I never realized until it was too late was the fact that since I specialized in F-16 fighter jets, I could only get assigned to bases which actually had F-16 jets. So While Minot N.D. was somewhere I'd never be stationed - neither was California, Hawaii, or England. My first Permanent Duty Station was Misawa, Japan WAY up on the northern tip of the island, where it snows an average of 145 inches a year and summer consists of 2 weeks of 72 degree weather. It's also possible that your FH can be stationed in a place like Kunsan Korea, It's a one year, remote assignment, which means you can't go with him. Regardless, you're going to be seperated from each other for a pretty significant amount of time. From what little I've read of this thread, it seems like you and/or your Fiance have had issues. If you're not 100% devoted to each other, your marriage just won't survive, I've seen this happen on many occasions. On the other Hand, I've traveled all over the Far East, been more places than I ever could have dreamed of and made life long friendships that I cherish.I found out exactly who I was, found out that I can achieve anything I set my mind too, learned how to deal with all types of people, had fun for the most part. I did my share of stupid, crazy, s**t. But mostly, I'm proud to say that I served my counrty.

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kennysoldwife Posts : 3,859 Registered: 4/28/07
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Posted: Jan 22, 2009 8:20 AM Go to message in response to: MisterKelley

MrK as an Air Crew Life Support Specialist we worked on the survival equipment ( parachutes, life rafts, helmets, survival vest) so unfortunately we could be stationed anywhere. My first permanent duty station was Wheeler AFB, in Hawaii It was with a TASS unit. We were right across the highway from Schoefield Barracks. Of course I loved it. As punishment for paradise I was next sent to a MAC Wing on a SAC Base in Abilene, TX. That was major culture shock.

My last assignment was going to be Minot or Elmondorf I had received orders for both. The week before I was to be transfered I was involved in an accident on the flightline and received a major back injury which when it healed made me unqualified to do my job. My options were to retrain or get out. It was at that time that I realized my job would not readily adapt to civillian life. I had intended to be a lifer so in choosing my job it had never been a consideration.

OP if at all possible have FH pick a job that he can use outside if you don't make the Air Force a career.

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stfballplayer7 Posts : 271 Registered: 3/17/08
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Posted: Jan 22, 2009 8:52 PM Go to message in response to: MisterKelley

MisterKelley --Thank you for all of your advice and information. I will be sure to pass that on to FH. And i'm sure we will be back with questions...

Kennysoldwife -- Thank you as well. I believe if he goes in it will be for (i'm not sure of the real name) airplane mechanic or something of the sort. He likes figuring out the problems and fixing them.

         

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stfballplayer7 Posts : 271 Registered: 3/17/08
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Posted: Jan 23, 2009 11:07 PM Go to message in response to: stfballplayer7

Okay, someone recently told me that the Air Force is the military/governments "guinea pigs". Where they can do their little experiements and you can't say no to it. Even on your babies.!

I would just like to know if that's true or someone is just messing with me.

(I really hope thier messing with me b/c that is awful... I wouldn't want them to experiment on my babies that's for sure)
         

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MisterKelley Posts : 258 Registered: 7/11/08
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Posted: Jan 27, 2009 12:26 AM Go to message in response to: stfballplayer7

Don't worry sftballplayer7. In the unlikly event that an experiment should go horribly wrong, the United States Air Force will issue you a new baby. Which I'm sure will be much better than the dumb baby they accidentally dropped into a vat of liquid hydrogen. I remember once when I was stationed in Okinawa, there was this family living next door to me. Their baby would cry all night long, it never shut up. It also threw up all the time. After an unfortunate incident in which the baby was incorrectly seatbelted into a centerfuge and was promptly ejected into a wall, the parents got a brand new baby!!! :) It was so much better than the stupid old baby - it never spit up,it slept through the night every night and was already potty trained! So you see, you have absolutely nothing to worry about, The Air Force knows what's best for you :):):)

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kennysoldwife Posts : 3,859 Registered: 4/28/07
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Posted: Jan 27, 2009 8:00 AM Go to message in response to: MisterKelley

MisterKelley, I am so glad you cleared that up. It wouldn't do for people to get the wrong idea about the Air Force. The person that told her about the experiments must have been one of the few dissatisfied Airmen, they must have liked their initial baby and just couldn't adapt to the new and improved model.

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Nalamienea Posts : 2,924 Registered: 6/13/08
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Posted: Jan 27, 2009 10:17 AM Go to message in response to: kennysoldwife

LOLOL "The Airforce knows what's best for you"

Classic.

Oririginal Poster - I wanted to lend to you some of my uncompleted unbiased and researchless information. I recently watched a history channel documentary on human experiementation after the second world war. The military was doing nuclear fall out testing, as well as biological testing, on all arms of the military, including the airforce, army, and navy, according to the historians interviewed on the program. And now that the widows of the men are dying of cancer 40 years later, the military is refusing to declassify the papers needed to make claims for proper compensation.

So if this is true you can rest assured that it's not just the Air Force that are the guinea pigs.


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dannysbabydoll Posts : 28 Registered: 1/7/09
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Posted: Jan 27, 2009 1:09 PM Go to message in response to: stfballplayer7

i dont know anything about the air force, but my fh is in the national guard. And let me tell you him being away is the hardest thing ever. If it is something he wants to do then he should do it. Just letting you know him being gone is going to be lonely and it does change your realtionship.
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kelleyiskelley Posts : 11,590 Registered: 7/2/06
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Posted: Jan 27, 2009 6:38 PM Go to message in response to: MisterKelley

MisterKelley - if this is the case, then why the hell hasnt the Air Force replaced my old "MisterKelley" with the new and Improved MisterKelley Model 2009? You know - the one that doesnt flood the bathroom with water upon each visit, leave socks and pants strewn about the apartment, cups and half full glasses on each counter and tabletop, and random items like a nail file and Rolaids atop the Entertainment Center?

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MrsRicecake Posts : 700 Registered: 2/2/08
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Posted: Jan 27, 2009 11:44 PM Go to message in response to: stfballplayer7

I am a Marine wife. Speaking from the prospective, I can give you insight on what it is like being a military spouse and what he does. He is a structural mechanic on Cobra and Huey Helocoptars. Its pretty much the same thing your Fh sounds like he is wanting to do. Now the schooling is uber long. The Marine Corps wouldnt let us live together if we had been married while he was going through A school (the first general part of mechanic schooling) but we would have gotten seperation pay, BAH (housing pay) and all the other perks. Now that might be because the station he was stationed at for schooling was a Naval base and had all these big headed Marines fresh from basic and combat training running around causing problems so they werent allowed off base during certain times. If we had been married before he went to SEA school (the final part of schooling where they learn their specialized jobs) we would have been able to live together, just not on base. My Dh is extremely smart when it comes to mechanics so his job is a peice of cake. He got to choose his bird. Like MisterKelley said, he can choose before he even leaves for basic what he wants to work on, make sure he gets every little thing promised to him written in his contract. That means reading the thing before signing, the military is sneaky especially recruiters! My Dh LOVES his job, he just isnt too crazy about the military, being a low rank makes things a little more difficult, E4 and above is alot easier! A lot of the new guys get stuck with night crew, which means hes gone at night because theres not as much to do so he can get better training. Dh was lucky and his Gunny only sends single guys to night crew! And because of all his training he has his degree, I cant remember the techincal name, but it was free college!

As far as you. You are very well taken care of. I here the Air Force is the best branch for married couples. You get housing, medical and dental, separtation pay all that good stuff! I live on base, housing is assigned according to rank. There are certain districts depending on rank (everything is like that). Dh is an E3 so we get "crappy" housing one bedroom 1.5 bath maybe 650 square feet. Small but actually really nice. You have maintance to be done, call the housing office they will be there in a matter of hours. You are surrounded by women going through the same thing with the general understanding that half of the year life sucks. Dh is training for deployment so his hours get longer and longer and there will be times he will be gone for a week-four weeks at a time.

The Guinea Pigs are usually the enlisted not their families! LOL! Even then they dont do anything! I believe the Air Force is the richest branch of the military so they take really good care of their men and their families! I just strongly suggest being married before he enlists. Its just easier! I wish we would have been before he left! Good luck!


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stfballplayer7 Posts : 271 Registered: 3/17/08
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Posted: Jan 28, 2009 12:45 PM Go to message in response to: MrsRicecake

FMR,

Thank you for giving me a wifes' perspective. That really helps for me. And we will deff be married before he enlists. For one our wedding is April 13th and basic is usually 2 months... that would mean he may not be back for the wedding.. and that wouldn't be good... lol. Secondly, he wouldn't want to enlist and me noy be able to be with him, he also heard of the separation pay and stuff so that was another part of his decision to wait until we are married.

Like your husband, my FH is very mechanically inclined. Seriously, I made him buy those ASVAB books and one that helps prepare you for a mechanical aptitude and spatial relations test. We are going through them together, we both read and he does the tests and then we both go over the answers and explainations. He seriously gets none wrong on the mechanical parts, it's insane. But I am pretty good at the math parts, lol, math was always my strong subject. Now, I know the tests in these books probably are way easier than the real thing, unless they gave us the real deal in High School, I remember that real well.... they were pretty easy.

And now I'm just rambling.... so i'mma go for now. And Thank you agian FMR. =]
         

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MrsRicecake Posts : 700 Registered: 2/2/08
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Posted: Jan 28, 2009 1:33 PM Go to message in response to: stfballplayer7

My Dh took the ASVAB in high school, I think the test is good for 2-3years, so when he enlisted he didnt feel like retaking it. Its harder the way they make you take it in HS then at MEPs. Or so they say.
Its good that you will be married before. My advice for basic is write him everyday. I did from the day he left until graduation day. Let me warn you that if the first phone call is like the Marines, its 30 seconds of them reading a script, if they vear from that script the phone will be cut off. The Marines only get two phone calls, the first a day or two from the time they leave and a week before graduation (Marine basic is 13 weeks) the second phone call is 5 minutes and they can talk freely. When DH called he called my cell phone and I had been getting phone calls from University of Pheonix all week so I thought it was them calling, I was a complete bitch to him! It took a few moments to realize it was him! And he will change. Not for the bad, but for the better. Dh seemed sooo much older. So did my brother, also a Marine

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stfballplayer7 Posts : 271 Registered: 3/17/08
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Posted: Jan 28, 2009 1:55 PM Go to message in response to: MrsRicecake

Yes, they are good for a few years, I remember reading that. I don't remember if we took them our Junior or Senior year... But we graduated in '07 so it may be up here real soon. For some reason I think it was Junior year.
Lol. I planned on writing all the time. He was in NC for a little while, he attended NTI(Nascar Technical Institute). I wrote like a ten letters for him to read on the way down.. and then I think a letter was waiting for him in the mail when he got there. The phone calls sound difficult at first, well they will be way difficult. I'm not really sure how I would take it. We usually talk hours at night, but he does need to stay focused, I understand that.
I also know what you mean when you say they act older. His cousin, and a few of our friends are in different branches of the Military and when I saw them for the first time after they got home, I had to step back, take a breath, and was like "wow, is this the same so-and-so that I know?"



FMR, I was wondering, how was it adapting to the "new" lifestyle as the wife of a Marine man? Also are you persuing a career or are you a housewife?
         

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MisterKelley Posts : 258 Registered: 7/11/08
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Posted: Jan 28, 2009 9:25 PM Go to message in response to: kelleyiskelley

kelleyiskelley wrote:MisterKelley - if this is the case, then why the hell hasnt the Air Force replaced my old "MisterKelley" with the new and Improved MisterKelley Model 2009? You know - the one that doesnt flood the bathroom with water upon each visit, leave socks and pants strewn about the apartment, cups and half full glasses on each counter and tabletop, and random items like a nail file and Rolaids atop the Entertainment Center?


Um.... yeah. Well let's take a look at that. You got the version that does the laundry, folds the clothes,mops the floor. The Entertainment center that I put my stuff on top of, replaced the most god awful contraption that I've ever seen! Do you remember what it was? It was wood boards and a couple of milk crates!! WTF?? I Supplied you with a car so you no longer have to call a taxi to go to and from the grocery store. Do you remember hauling the tons of stuff you need to teach your college courses through Manhatten, Penn Station, transfer to the L.I.R.R. and hike to the campus then turn around and repeat the prcess to get home? Remember what that was like? Apparently not!!! You see kelley, the Air Force knew what was best for you 9 years before I ever met you.

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MrsRicecake Posts : 700 Registered: 2/2/08
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Posted: Jan 29, 2009 5:55 PM Go to message in response to: stfballplayer7

I am currently a housewife and going insane. But a lot of military wives are. I love to work it makes me feel good about myself so I am avidly looking for a job. I would say that being a military wife has definately thrown a curve ball into my plans. I wanted to go into sports mangagement or sports marketing. Well that is a life for non-military families, so I let those plans go. It hasnt bothered me one bit. I love my husband and want to support him no matter what, a marriage takes scarifice and you do a lot of that being a military spouse. I love the show Army Wives on Lifetime. Its really accurate. I plan on getting my degree in business and when he is done with his enlistment I want to own my own business. So I want to get the experience I need while he's in. There a lot of women that have careers as psychologists, nurses, laywers ect. You just have to remember that for the 4-5 years of his first enlistment his job comes first. He doesnt have the privilege of quitting because he doesnt like it or not moving because your job.
I dont know how the Air Force does the enlistments for air mechanics, but Dh had to sign a 5 year contract as opposed to the 4 year contract because of all the schooling. The first year was nothing but schooling.

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