Maybe you should try to plan the engagement party with your fiance without any mention of the ring.  If you two agree on a date for the engagement party, maybe he will feel a little of his own heat to get the ring before the...]]> Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:30:19 -0500 Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:30:19 -0500 Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:30:19 -0500 Dec 21, 2006 0 http://www.brides.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=197031&tstart=0#197031 yeah..send them out now? with no ring? The ring is supposed to come first though, right? I feel like people aren't taking us seriously without the ring, like it's a joke or something. People seem so dumbfounded when we introduce each other as...]]> Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:59:11 -0500 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:54:02 -0500 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:59:11 -0500 Dec 20, 2006 0 http://www.brides.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=197014&tstart=0#197014 My fiance and I are well into our planning. We've got the ceremony site reserved, reception site too, we've chosen our attendants (haven't officiakky asked them yet, but they know. Our families know, our best friends know, and we know...]]> Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:56:15 -0500 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:24:04 -0500 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:56:15 -0500 Dec 20, 2006 9 http://www.brides.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=197015&tstart=0#197015 I'm not sure; you know your fiancee best.  But it just occurs to me, maybe the reason that he's slow to give you the ring is that he's got some big, elaborate plan for how he wants to propose and he feels like by pushing him...]]> Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:44:36 -0500 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:44:36 -0500 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:44:36 -0500 Dec 20, 2006 gwtwred 1